Design Boss Dialogue The Interior Design Business Podcast
Design Boss Dialogue is the interior design business podcast for bold, ambitious women ready to build a profitable, confident interior design business, without losing themselves in the process.
Each week, host Lisa-Marie Elkhadraoui, an award-winning interior designer, business strategist, and founder of Design Boss Diary, shares real conversations on pricing, sales, marketing, visibility, and mindset, drawn straight from her own 16 years running an award-winning design studio and mentoring hundreds of interior designers.
This is the show for the designer who knows she's talented but is ready to build the thriving, soul-led interior design business she's been dreaming of and truly deserves.
Design Boss Dialogue The Interior Design Business Podcast
Ep 94: Delivering vs Leading: The Shift Every Interior Designer Must Make
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Welcome back to the Design Boss Dialogue podcast, the interior design business podcast for women who are ready to build businesses that feel as good on the inside as they look on the outside.
Last week, we explored the difference between foundational work and momentum work. This week, I want to take that conversation one step further because I believe this is the shift that changes everything.
So many talented interior designers are exceptional at delivering beautiful projects, creating incredible client experiences, and managing every detail with care. But building a successful project isn't the same as building a successful business.
In this episode, we're exploring the difference between operating in delivery mode and stepping into leadership mode.
We'll talk about why staying focused solely on client work can quietly limit your business growth, how becoming the bottleneck prevents your business from scaling, and why strategic leadership allows you to make better decisions around profitability, capacity and long-term growth.
I'll also share practical ways to start thinking like a business owner rather than simply reacting to what's happening day by day. Because leadership isn't about doing less, it's about creating the space to make better decisions that support the future of your business.
If you've ever felt like you're constantly moving from one project to the next without stopping to look at the bigger picture, this episode is for you.
In this episode, we cover:
- The difference between delivering projects and leading a business.
- Why many talented interior designers become the bottleneck in their own business.
- Understanding the difference between revenue and true profitability.
- How to identify which projects genuinely support your business growth.
- Why tracking patterns is more valuable than simply completing projects.
- The importance of financial visibility and strategic planning.
- How mentorship helps you identify the blind spots you can't always see yourself.
- Making decisions based on your long-term vision instead of short-term emotion.
Leadership isn't about stepping away from your clients.
It's about stepping towards your business.
The moment you begin making decisions based on your long-term vision instead of simply reacting to today's challenges, everything starts to change.
Because sustainable growth isn't built through working harder.
It's built through leading differently.
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ABOUT DESIGN BOSS DIALOGUE
Design Boss Dialogue is the interior design business podcast for women ready to build a profitable, sustainable interior design business without losing themselves in the process.
Each week, host Lisa-Marie Elkhadraoui, Interior Design Business Strategist, Mentor and Founder of Design Boss Diary, shares practical strategies on pricing, sales, forecasting, marketing, visibility, systems and leadership, alongside the mindset work that allows women to build businesses that genuinely support the life they want to create.
This is where practical business strategy meets soulful leadership, helping interior designers move from overwhelm to clarity, from inconsistency to momentum, and from simply delivering projects to confidently leading thriving businesses.
Welcome back to the Design Boss Dialogue Podcast, the Interior Design Business Podcast for women who are ready to build businesses that feel as good on the inside as they look on the outside. I am your host, Lise Marie Elkadrawi, and I cannot wait to get stuck into this week's podcast. So last week we talked about the shift from foundational work to momentum work. And I got so much feedback from you all about that episode. I love this. I love the messages that I receive. Women saying things like, oh my God, that's exactly where I am. Or I didn't realize I was operating blind until you absolutely said that. I was nodding along to the episode, which tells me we're really onto something here. Okay. So this week I want to go deeper into one of the pieces I touched on because I think it's the one thing that changes everything. And that's the difference between delivering in your business and leading in your business. Okay. Because here's what I'm seeing. Most of the women who are really successful at delivery, at actually executing projects, managing clients beautifully, creating amazing spaces, they're not necessarily the ones who are building businesses that can scale. And it's not because they lack talent or intelligence, it's because they're still operating in delivery mode and they haven't stepped into leadership mode yet. Okay. And the difference between those two things is massive. So let me break down exactly what I mean. When you're in delivery mode, you're focused on the work. You're thinking about your client's project, you're thinking about the design, the timeline, the installation, the problem solving. You're in the work, guys. You're in the trenches, you're executing, right? And you need to do that. Of course you do. But that's not something you stop doing. But if your delivery is all you're doing, then your business is completely dependent on you being in it every single moment of every single day. Okay? Now, here's what delivery looks like when it's all you're doing. You finish your project and immediately you're on to the next one. You don't take time to look at what actually worked in that project, what didn't, what you do differently. You're not tracking which types of projects are the most profitable. You're not seeing patterns in your client journey. You're not forecasting what's coming next. You're just delivering the next thing and the next thing and the next thing. And if you're the designer that's always chasing for that project, you are not leading. Okay. Interior designers chase projects. Interior design business owners think about their business and think about the quarter, six months, twelve months, and bigger picture. And here's the most dangerous part. When you're in pure delivery mode, you become the bottleneck. Okay? You think you're doing right, but you actually become the bottleneck. Your business can only grow as much as you can personally deliver. So if you want to make more money, you have to work more hours. It's simple math. If you want more clients, you have to have the capacity to take them on. Your business is literally capped by your own time and energy. Leadership, on the other hand, is about stepping back from the work and looking at the system around the work. It's about asking questions like, what's working in this business? What's not? Where is my money actually coming from? What kind of projects am I actually profitable on? What does my pipeline look like for the next quarter? What should I be doing differently? When you're leading, you're still delivering. You're still doing the work, but you're also thinking strategically about the business that's holding that work. You're working on the business. Let me give you an example. Say you've got three projects on the go right now. One is in like a full residential project, one is a smaller commercial consultation, and the other one is a residential kitchen refresh for argument's sake. In delivery mode, you're just moving through those three projects, trying to get them done well. You're focused on each client, you're focused on the output, you want to make sure everything is running smoothly. In delivery mode, you're asking different questions. You're asking which three of these projects is actually the most profitable. And I don't mean profitable in terms of revenue, I mean profitable in terms of profit margin because they might all bring in the same revenue, but one might require 10 times more the emotional labor as the other. One might have a client who's constantly changing her mind. One might have unexpected complications. So when you next step into leadership, you're asking, what did I learn from this project that I can use next time? You're asking, should I actually be taking on this type of work? Do I enjoy it? What's my capacity for this type of work? And you're starting to make strategic decisions about what type of projects you want to say yes to and what type of projects you actually want to politely decline. And that one shift from reacting to every single inquiry that lands in your inbox to strategically choosing what aligns with your capacity and your profit margin, that's the beginning of leadership. That's the sweet spot we're looking for, guys. Now, I want to bring in some context here because this just isn't a mindset thing either. There's real evidence behind why this shift matters so much. Businesses with strong financial planning and strategic oversight are two and a half times more likely to consistently hit their growth targets. This is not luck. This is not talent. Planning, strategic visibility into the numbers. I cannot say that enough. And here's the other piece: 76% of small business owners who received structured mentoring said it directly helped them grow their businesses. Not just feel more confident, actually grow. Because when you have someone helping you see the patterns in your own business, you stop guessing and you start making decisions based on how you feel that week, and you start making decisions based on what the actual data is telling you. Women that I've worked with on long-form transformation trajectories, they three and a half times their revenue. They have 44% increases year on year. They have the wildest results because they are actually strategically growing. Now, here's what that looks like practically. If you don't know which part of your projects are actually profitable, you'll keep saying yes to the wrong kind of work simply because it's so familiar to you. And if you don't have visibility into your capacity, you'll keep overcommitting until you burn out. And then swing the other way into a complete quiet, fearful month, exhausted because you've got nothing to give. That feast and famine cycle isn't bad luck. It's usually a leadership gap, not a delivery gap. So, how do you actually make this shift? How do you move from being brilliant at delivery to becoming a strategic leader in your own business? Now, the first thing you have to start is tracking patterns, not just projects. At the end of every project, ask yourself, what was my actual profit margin here once I account for my time? What was the emotional cost of this client relationship? Would I take on this exact type of project again? Most designers never ask these questions. Like they never, ever, ever ask these questions because they're too busy moving on to the next thing, onto the next project, onto the next client. But this is where leadership really starts. In the reflection, not just the doing. And the second thing is understanding your numbers across a longer arc than just a month. One strong month doesn't tell you if your business is actually growing. One quiet month doesn't mean you're failing. What matters is the pattern across the 90 days. Because that's long enough to see something real, right? Even six months. And it's short enough that you can course correct before it becomes a crisis. And when you're only looking month to month, you're simply reacting. When you're looking across a longer trajectory, you're leading. And the third piece is learning to say no strategically. Oh my gosh, I we have had so many conversations about this, me and women that I work with and coach and mentor and teach. And this is one of the hardest shifts for designers because so many of us come into this industry wanting to help people, wanting to say yes, wanting to be available. But every time you say yes to something that doesn't align with your capacity or your profit margin, you're basically saying no to the version of your business that's actually sustainable. Leadership means being able to look at an inquiry and ask, does this fit where I'm strategically taking my business? Not just do I need the income right now. And the fourth piece, which ties it all together, is building your decisions around a plan rather than around momentums of bad habits. Most designers make decisions based on what's in front of them this week. Leaders, they actually make decisions based on where the business is heading across the quarter and the year. That's the difference between reacting to your business and actually leading it. So here's what I want you to sit with this week. Think about the last three decisions you made in your business. Were they made because you were reacting to something in front of you, or were they made because they were aligned with a strategic decision and direction that you've already mapped out? And if you're not sure, if most of your decisions this year have been reactive rather than strategic, that's not a failure. It just means you're still standing at the edge of a delivery to leadership shift, and that you most probably could do with support from a coach and mentor. And that's actually a really exciting place to be, because everything from here gets to be so much more intentional. And the truth is, most designers don't make the shift alone. It's really hard to see your own blind spots when you're one, the one inside the business on the everyday. Having someone alongside you, someone who can see the patterns, see the shifts, see the things that you can't, who's walked other designers through exactly this transition. There's often the difference between staying stuck in delivery mode for years and actually stepping into leadership with within months. So this week I want you to ask yourself, where in my business am I still just delivering and where could I be leading? I want you to sit with that. That's it for today's episode of the Design Boss Dialogue Podcast, the interior design business podcast for women who are ready to build businesses that feel as good on the inside as they look on the outside. And if today's conversation about delivering versus leading hits home for you, I would love for you to take a screenshot and share it on Instagram, tag me design underscore boss underscore diary, and let me know which decision you're going to go ahead and lead with differently this week. And if you haven't already, hit subscribe so you never ever miss an episode because we've got so much more coming this month that builds on exactly what we have spoken about today. I'm Lisa Marie El Kadrawi and I will see you next week on the Design Boss Dialogue Podcast.